Today's episode is a deep dive on the virgin birth story - where did it come from? Which biblegospel features it? Who benefits from its narrative and why did the Catholic bishops replace the word 'virgin' with 'young woman' when issuing a revised bible in 2011? No stone is left unturned nor sacred cow spared in this episode of Presbyter Chat - hosted by Darren Kelama.br br Timestamps:br br Introduction to the Episode (00:00:00) br Presbyter Darren Kelama introduces the topic of the virgin birth in the first Christian Bible.br br Full Disclosure and Background (00:00:19) br Discussion on Pre-Nicene Christian beliefs and the significance of the first Christian Bible.br br Jesus's Arrival on Earth (00:01:21) br Details on Jesus's descent to Earth in 29 A.D., emphasizing His fully human form.br br The First Christian Gospel (00:01:21) br Introduction to the Gospel of the Lord, received by Apostle Paul, as the basis for later gospels.br br Simplicity of the Gospel Message (00:02:39) br Emphasis on the clarity and truthfulness of the gospel, contrasting it with complex theological narratives.br br Christmas Celebrations (00:03:56) br Discussion on different dates for celebrating Jesus's arrival, stressing the importance of family over specific dates.br br The Virgin Birth in Gospels (00:05:21) br Analysis of the absence of the virgin birth story in the gospels of John and Mark.br br Source Material for Gospels (00:05:21) br Explanation of the source material for Matthew and Luke, linking it to Paul’s revelation.br br Meeting of Paul, Peter, and James (00:06:32) br Overview of the meeting in 37 A.D. where early apostles may have discussed the gospel narratives.br br Editing of the Gospel Narratives (00:06:47) br Discussion on how subversive groups edited the gospel to fit a messianic Jewish narrative.br br Matthew's Gospel as a First Attempt (00:07:44) br Critique of Matthew's narrative as clumsy and aimed at convincing non-Jews of Jesus's imaginary Jewish identity.br br Galatians on Different Gospels (00:08:17) br Reference to Galatians, highlighting the concern over altering the original gospel message.br br Motivation Behind Gospel Edits (00:08:50) br Exploration of the motivations behind the creation of gospels aimed at non-Jewish audiences.br br The Virgin Birth Prophecy (00:10:21) br Introduction of Isaiah 7:14, discussing the implications of the term "virgin."br br Changes in Biblical Translations (00:11:37) br Reference to the Catholic bishops’ admission regarding the translation of "virgin" to "young woman."br br Matthew's Birth Narrative (00:12:16) br Reading of the passage from Matthew regarding Jesus's birth, allegedly linking it to Hebrew prophecy.br br Luke's Account of Jesus's Birth (00:13:42) br Overview of Luke’s narrative and its implications for Jesus’s identity.br br Jesus's Response to the Davidic Lineage (00:14:21) br Jesus rebukes the notion of being David's son, challenging the Hebrew narrative.