They believe some of the organs come from members of the Falun Gong movement – a quasi-religious group with millions of followers, which is banned by the Chinese Government. “Falun Gong, before it was repressed was very popular in China,” David Matas says. “It’s estimated, according to government of China statistics, between 70 and 100 million people, which was then more than the membership of the Communist Party of China.” Investigators claim thousands of them have been detained by authorities. “I testify to the atrocious crime that the hospital committed in removing livers and corneas from living Falun Gong members,” says former worker Annie. “Some of them were still alive when they were secretly burnt in the incinerator that was in the boiler room.” Her husband at the time was a surgeon responsible for removing organs. They fled China to escape the work, but he then faced an attempt to kill him. “Some people in the hospital knew about this, but they were too afraid of being killed to speak up,” she says. David Matas believes such evidence is the only way of explaining the fast availability of organs. “Everywhere else in the world it would be months and years,” he says. “When you book a transplant in advance, for a heart transplant, and you go to China and you get a transplant within a few days.” “I went to the mainland on 25 June. So I waited two to three weeks,” says patient Rourou Zhuang. She travelled from Taiwan for a kidney transplant, but only found out later that her donor could potentially have been killed to order. “I was totally shocked to find out about the source,” she says. “I also feel very sad I participated in that. So I thought I should tell my story to let the public know.