Grades are always hotly debated regardless if it's a 6a or 9a. Today we look at Permin Bertle's response to Adam Ondra's suggested downgrade of Meiose. As always we look at this week's climbing news and check out what's on EpicTV.br br Pirmin's Article: Lisa's Articles: Reunion Bouldering: Scottish DWS: br Great deals on Climbing Gear: br The Great Grade Debate: Pirmin Responds To Adam Ondra | Climbing Daily Ep.