Support the show:br br br Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts:br br br Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:br Paperback: Kindle: br John invites Andy and Lizzy Manley, former members of New Frontiers, to discuss their experiences with the group. Lizzy shares how her early faith journey in New Frontiers, which began with what seemed like genuine worship, led to disillusionment due to the shepherding practices that promoted strict submission. Over time, she experienced cognitive dissonance between her personal beliefs and the church's teachings, leading her to lose faith for nearly a decade. Andy discusses the theological rigidity and financial demands of the church, focusing on strict tithing policies and questionable leadership practices. Both Andy and Lizzy express frustration at how the church's emphasis on control, financial exploitation, and rigid hierarchies led them to question the authenticity of their spiritual experience.br br The conversation transitions into broader reflections on the New Apostolic Reformation and the structural similarities between movements like New Frontiers and other charismatic organizations. Both Andy and Lizzy emphasize how the misuse of spiritual authority and manipulation of believers for financial gain are rampant in these circles. They reflect on how these experiences, combined with emotional manipulation during worship services, distorted their understanding of faith and religion. The interview concludes with advice to current members of such groups, urging them to read the Bible independently and question teachings that seem manipulative or self-serving.