John and Bob discuss the historical and theological roots of dominionism, tracing its lineage from ancient tribalism through Christian Identity and Latter Rain theology, to its modern manifestation in the New Apostolic Reformation. They examine how belief systems have always included some form of power struggle, with dominionism merely being the latest iteration of an age-old human tendency. Drawing from ancient history, biblical narratives, and personal experiences, the conversation challenges the modern evangelical lens that sanitizes scripture and overlooks the broader, often troubling context in which it was written. They critique how the Bible is often misused to support narrow political or religious agendas, instead of being viewed as a complex historical and spiritual text.br br The discussion also explores how religious leaders have shaped—and sometimes distorted—the nature of God to reflect their own brokenness, using dogma to enforce conformity rather than fostering genuine transformation. Through comparisons with Islamic eschatology, ancient conquests, the Catholic Church, and even the dynamics of the early Israelite tribes, the conversation makes a case for humility, nuance, and a multi-perspective view of theology and history. Mental health, elitism, and the dangerous allure of theocratic control also come into play, particularly in reference to recent controversies and leaders in the NAR. The episode closes with a call to reconsider how we view both scripture and leadership, especially when distorted theology can perpetuate abuse or drive people away from real healing.br br 00:00 Introductionbr 01:10 Dominionism and Christian Identity Rootsbr 03:02 C. Peter Wagner and Early American Influencesbr 05:01 Eugenics, Elitism, and Religious Controlbr 08:45 The Spread of Dominion Ideology Globallybr 12:14 Historical Patterns of Control and Empirebr 14:46 Ancient Examples of Dominionismbr 17:15 Latter Rain and Zion City as Theocratic Modelsbr 19:15 Old Testament Dominion and Its Fragile Legacybr 22:57 Power Dynamics in Ancient Israelbr 25:17 Offense, Division, and the Fall of Unified Israelbr 27:07 Sanitized Preaching and Whitewashed Historybr 30:06 Rebuilding Culture After Destructionbr 34:36 God’s Role in Cultural Developmentbr 36:57 The Bird’s Eye View and Bible Complexitybr 40:10 Denominational Division and Lack of Contextbr 43:41 Dominionism’s View of God vs. the Bigger Picturebr 46:03 Prophets in Power and Lessons from Historybr 47:53 The Samaritan Perspective and Jesus’ Approachbr 51:13 Common Origin and God’s Global Workbr 53:10 Reducing God to Human Flawsbr 54:40 Good People, Bad Choices, and Mental Healthbr 58:43 Control vs. Transformationbr 59:13 Religious Leadership and Coercion vs.