John and Chino invite Liz to share her story about her time in Faith Assembly under the leadership of Hobart Freeman. Liz recounts how she and her husband were drawn into the movement through her brother-in-law and moved to Indiana during what she describes as the exciting days of the Glory Barn. She explains how the environment gradually shifted from enthusiastic Bible teaching to an increasingly authoritarian and isolated experience as the group transitioned from the barn to tents, then to a permanent facility. Liz discusses how theological disagreements—especially Freeman’s use of Hebrews 11:1—sparked concern and eventually led to her family’s departure. She also recounts the group’s control over information and refusal to acknowledge suffering or death among members, which became glaringly evident in the aftermath of high-profile tragedies.br br As the conversation progresses, Liz reflects on the deeper psychological and spiritual impact of being part of a controlling environment. She describes the emotional disorientation that followed her exit, the healing that came through speaking publicly, and how she eventually went to seminary and became a counselor. Chino and John add broader historical context about Faith Assembly’s connections to other movements and explore the personality traits and health issues that may have influenced Freeman’s increasingly harsh and erratic behavior. Together, they reflect on the nature of spiritual authority, discernment, and recovery from high-control religious systems.