John and Chino discuss the critical need for sound biblical scholarship after leaving movements shaped by William Branham, Hobart Freeman, and the later charismatic-deliverance teachings. John recalls how his early reading of Colossians 2 opened his eyes to how Branhamite and NAR-style teachers misused words like “mystery” and “Laodicea” to insert their own authority. Together they trace the harm caused by the so-called “five-fold ministry” and by leaders who demanded loyalty to themselves while twisting Scripture—contrasting this with the plain, accessible meaning of the Bible that any believer can read. The conversation emphasizes humility, historical context, and careful interpretation over sensational claims, warning of the arrogance and elitism that often poison even seemingly solid teaching.br br 00:00 Introductionbr 01:00 Christ Is the Mystery — Not a Prophet’s Secretbr 05:00 The Misuse of Laodicea and the “Seven Church Ages” Theorybr 09:00 Mystery Religion vs.