John and Chino discuss how ministers—especially in destructive or authoritarian movements—actually come up with their sermons. They trace the evolution of “God told me” preaching from early Pentecostalism through Hobart Freeman, William Branham, and the rise of the New Apostolic Reformation. The conversation explores how anger, narcissism, and audience manipulation fuel sermon creation, how topical preaching replaces real study, and how plagiarism, ghostwriting, and emotional theatrics masquerade as divine revelation. Together, they break down examples such as Billy Graham’s “Thinking Man’s Filter,” William Branham’s mathematical “chant,” and Freeman’s claims of prophetic dictation—revealing how these methods shaped entire movements and misled followers who thought they were hearing from God.